Posts by Half banana

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JW's Ransom Sacrifice Dogma

by The Fall Guy in

jesus described himself as a 'ransom' (matthew 20:28) and the following statement summarises the the fairy story which j.w.

's are sold as "truth" -.

w96 11/1 p. 9 par.

Yes what a real blessing Adam's sin was! Not only a ringside seat in heaven for some but all those billions who have had the privilege of dying from nasty painful diseases in order for a spirit ruler to show the world just who is in charge. Jehovah sounds like an insecure bully who wants revenge. None of it adds up.

If you base your life on fairy stories how can you expect to know anything or understand anything? If you can't see that Adam and Eve is a simple creation myth then you still have an awful lot of growing up to do.

And if there was no Adam-- there could be no "second Adam"-- it is very straightforward.

Humans have been on the Earth for 300,000 years. Will Jesus' sacrifice cover our earliest ancestors and how about Neanderthals who interbred with humans--and Homo heidelbergensis and Homo erectus? Where would you draw the line??

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One of the points of conventions: obedience training

by john.prestor in

i think a lot these days about people who train you to be obedient without telling you that's what they're doing.

the thought occurred to me that that could be part of the idea of regional conventions.

it's not like they present much of anything new to the audience, it's the same old talks year after year, the same old information, yeah, repackaged a little, different themes, different illustrations, but the same information, obey the faithful slave, armageddon is imminent, go door-to-door, the usual.

Half banana

J.P I entirely agree with you.The skill of the GB developed over many years is all about keeping their workers inside the cult compound.

To do this, from long experience and through the repetitive and droning assembly talks they create, firm up and hone the lobotomised flock to serve the interests of the leadership.

The ideal JW is given an overriding spiritual hope which enables him or her to cavalierly dispense with reason-- reasoning and questioning is of course from Satan! Common sense and any facts contrary to the JW teachings are dismissed because they might cause one to think objectively or move away from the brotherhood and lose out at Big A. Another ideal quality is for the individual to be mentally lazy but prepared instead to hear complimentary things about their loyalty to their chosen religion.

He or she has already put all their eggs, so to speak, in the one JW basket thinking that whatever happens or whatever non-believers say, they must be doing the right thing, after all, they imagine they have in their possession the only ticket to paradise!

The assembly message for the last five or six years is simple: Don't think; obey!

It is the perfect recipe to make slaves out of people.

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Its been 2000 years now since Jesus Christianity was Established and now today we have 40000 + Christian sects ?

by smiddy3 in

emperor constantine might have got the message 17 centuries ago but surely god must by now realize that the mission has failed .?.

surely he should as he has on past experience in the old testament now approach a world leader of either the usa ,england ,russia ,china ,or the united nations or even israel and make his judgement`s known .?.

why has he been so quiet all of these years ?

Half banana

It is truly mind boggling to grasp the enormity and the endurance of the Jesus-will-save-you scam.

Billions taken in by it over a period of nearly two thousand years and not one of them "saved". Not one Christian has ever overcome death as they had been promised. Islam's paradise is equally elusive.

It's time for humankind to relegate these infantile beliefs to our nursery period and grow up.

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His Rose colored glasses are back on

by HappyBlessedFree in

so my husband who was not attending meetings for the last four months, went to the special talk, the memorial and the meeting today.

he said he feels jehovah’s spirit is back and that they are all being so kind.. i am just sick to my stomach.

he just refuses to see anything as a problem.

Half banana

If a person responds to love bombing from a bunch of smiley religious nuts, he must be is in a delicate state of mind in the first place.

Try and find out why he feels so insecure and deal with that.

Better to find friends and company who have their feet on the ground than those who dream of castles in the air and paradise fraudulently offered by the Watchtower.

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No Religion is growing

by Giordano in

(cnn)for the first time "no religion" has topped a survey of americans' religious identity, according to a new analysis by a political scientist.

the non-religious edged out catholics and evangelicals in the long-running general social survey.. https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/13/us/no-religion-largest-group-first-time-usa-trnd/index.html.

ryan burge, a political scientist at eastern illinois university and a baptist pastor, found that 23.1% of americans now claim no religion.. .

Half banana

In the UK the figure is now 53% claiming no religion according to the Independant newspaper. Religious attendance is around 4% in England as I recall from about four years ago

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Notre Dame Cathedral on fire...

by mikeflood in

kind sad watch such historic building on flames.

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i hope it will restored......

Half banana

Talking of hunches, I hope Quasimodo got out in time.

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Brain Teaser

by BourneIdentity in

i’ve always wondered about this one.

if the bible says there will be a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous, does that mean all mankind that have died will come back to life?

if so, what’s the incentive for jws to have an urgency to preach and save people?

Half banana

There have been around 105 billion people who have ever lived but in all of human history not one certifiable resurrection.

Come on chaps and ladies, can't you spot a fantasy when you hear one?

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Sad stats Willoughby ohio ass hall

by nowwhat? in

just a little fyi 900 attendance.

2 kids baptised and $12000.00 in the hole.

( not my assembly).

Half banana

"Other areas less fortunate," Do they mean the GB's blunder area?

So real transparency would read:

Expenses incurred at this assembly............ $1500

Court awards, penalties and and fines due to GB ignoring the welfare of their flock........... $28,500

This would bring home TTATT.

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So I've been warned about whether I should reveal my feelings of a Deity

by HiddenPimo in

all i have to say about that is that i agree with the following quote attributed to marcus aurelius:.

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Half banana

Marcus Aurelius: a model of reasonableness!

When we leave the cult sometimes to start with we still hang on to some of the ideas which have helped us in the past, it is perfectly normal. Changing our minds to become self determined in what we do is unfamiliar and we learn to adjust to the new way of thinking, not running on the old tram rails our old religion taught us.

Thinking for ourselves outside of other peoples laws and rules is more rewarding.

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Who Resurrected Jesus?

by snakeface in

one of the heresies of the wt is denying the divinity of christ.

during this "memorial season" they say that jehovah (god the father?

) resurrected jesus.

Half banana

Avoid conformism at all costs. One of the plus points of this site is the introduction of new and differing viewpoints.

I agree it is possible to compare religious views, whether believer or not, and determine connections to Biblical lore and note consistencies or otherwise. Plenty are prepared to do so and that is their right. I feel it is mainly an exercise in furthering the religious spell I wish to remove.

However the OP here has asked a thought provoking question.